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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:55 pm
by Lionheart
Well when people talk about ..the same way you feel inside
the same way .....etc.
they don't mean it literally.
It means that our thoughts, our feelings show/reflect the way we grasp the world..
They also reveal the level of our spiritual background, our ethics and the qualities that we possess.. or not as humans!
They also reflect our wish to become better as humans or not
the determination to upgrade ourselves as human species... (of course the final step is always the actions!!)
Humans are those who spread the peace or fear in the world, to nature too!(With their actions.)
The human spirit comes before and the nature simply bows..
Given that this is what is meant by the phrase "the same way you feel inside the same way you see the world that lies beyond you.."

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:20 pm
by wglmb
I still haven't got the faintest idea what you're on about.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:50 pm
by zeitga
Lionheart wrote:"the same way you feel inside the same way you see the world that lies beyond you.."

but the reciprocal is true as well. Besides, your vision of the world is altered also by the substances released by your brain, the "blue/red pills" you don't want to be told about.

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Lionheart, I think wglmb doesn't understand why you told this thing to him/her, why can't you follow the thread of a discussion? well, I think this is just another big mystery in the universe...

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:33 pm
by Lionheart
You should have thought of the title of this thread in particular many posts above..when i said unto you

the heart of the conversation in this thread was never the strongest survives or the law of the strongest! If you wish ...(and) i believe you should return to the main thread which is music and the mystery and the beauty of it and be more concentrated!

As it seems you really love pills! No thank you i prefer real life and health!
Do you want to remember some old links ? You said these things yourself :

"just another idiotic movie for pathosholics" (your opinion about insight)

"Again, all those hollywood products taste the same and follow the same basic patterns/templates... I did see the trailer but it was a pain in the ass as expected, often you just need to read the synopsis or to see the poster, and what about all those ridiculous titles and taglines..."

Your opinion too:
(oranges and sunshine)
mostly I don't like the stories told today, and those who tell them, how these stories .... I agree for imagination and fantasy, but in some way this movie/picture industry kill imagination...

it's time to turn off the TV and defend what remains of our freedom and unpolluted lands. Our parents were cowards, ignorants and idiots...

and somewhere else on the same thread little swan said
"I suggest you pull your online connection first. it would be so much more effective. Idea."

Why should I disconnect from the only reliable source of information ? Rolling Eyes

Those movies are like antidepressant drugs, we are bombed with so that we can accept better this inhuman system, just smoke screens sent by Hollywood, the biggest propaganda industry out there...

And then He said
because my impression is that the propaganda machine here is you.

you seem stuck on a one-dimensional pattern of interpreting what happens in the world.

I can respect that the subject is important to you but the way you address it with little substance in threads like this one is out of place and beside the point.

as for me
I dont need your pills i can function on my own way! I pray to God. Pillmaniac.Why dont you open another thread if you are so interested in pills.....

oh and Dont try to convince other people with things(movies) you dont actually believe.

Ok !That s fine!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:01 pm
by zeitga
good quotes! :D

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:54 pm
by Lionheart
wait....for more

about Baraka
Zeitga wrote
"I must say Baraka truly bored me... I find this movie useless and felt very embarrassed for the guy who did it... emotionalism and artistic pictures are the last things we need today when it comes to deal with poverty, exploitation, pollution...etc, I'm afraid we have just lost the chance to actually change things for having wasted too much time whining in front of our stupid screens watching stupid movies..."

Zeitga Quote:
I just would like to point out that emotions/emotionalism can be a trap and is largely used today by the cold-blooded mass media and hollywood industry like a weapon against people.

reply from another forum member
What exactly do you mean?I don't see how emotions can be used as a weapon against people...
It's funny to read those lines especially here on Lisa Gerrard's website, whose art is all about expressing AND triggering emotions.In the same way we could call her arrogant about that, couldn't we?
I believe everything around us triggers thoughts and emotions to a certain extent, art is not an exception-and that's the way it should be-that's the way that leads us to the state of catharsis, which we all are looking for. And catharsis is a great thing, it changes everyone for the better.I agree that through mass media we are being inundated with all kinds of unnecessary information or emotions and thoughts we can't always identify with, but thank goodness we have the freedom to make selections according to our mood. It's getting harder but it's still possible.

zeitga wrote
that's a bit optimistic... children usually have not the choice, and the majority of people hasn't the time or even the ability to make a selection as the industry is saturated with craps... people are crammed with superficial politically correct emotions and thoughts, and it's all about lulling and stultify us... this is a prison for the mind, a "matrix" that slowly invades reality and moves us away from it while some others extend their control over our lives... movies like Baraka are not of great help, it's part of the system...

To me, G. Reggio is a more talented and reliable director than Fricke even if his most famous movies (Koyaanisqatsi...)

zeitga wrote:
wglmb wrote:
People are not taught to be passive, but most choose to be because it's easier than facing how horrific the world actually is.

you actually say that people are weak and cowards, and I think you're right.

wglmb wrote:
"We can't change what we can't comprehend"? Sounds like rubbish to me. On what basis do you say that?
Anyway, there's nothing incomprehensible about people living in poverty, so your statement is irrelevant.

The world has become incredibly complex and opaque, many people simply not have the capacities to understand what's going on even at a basic level...

I disagree. People are strong... they're brave. They're profoundly emotional and live out their whole lives carrying the torch of that emotion, manifesting some of the most beautiful expressions this planet has ever known.

Everything they do, even the very worst of actions and responses, is done in order to preserve the sanctity of what they feel is right... to protect the people they love and to show their fidelity to those who desire their trust.

They have the capacity to train the most presumably violent and bloodthirsty of creatures to eat from their hands.... to manufacture and strap themselves to huge kites and glide off the edge of mountains and to turn a bow used for killing into a musical instrument which not even birds can reckon with their mastery over.

Humans aren't evil or stupid.
They're overwhelmed with the human experience.


Adi s words are making a point here... i believe he is right here

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:55 pm
by zeitga
yeah, excellent again!

ps: Adi was your twin.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:13 pm
by Lionheart
Excellent is a word used to describe "something" that is special and unique
by people with mental balance and a harmonious mind !

Though i love Adi s opinion
he would have not definitely been my twin

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:29 am
by zeitga
I think you're not in a good position to speak of mental balance and harmonious mind.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:27 am
by Lionheart
Take a pill to relax...and sleep well.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:38 am
by Lionheart
What a fantastic thread after all ...
"for out of the abundance of the heart* the mouth speaks."

(Heart or mind..)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:12 pm
by zeitga
yeah I know, you're the good blessed by God and we're the bad & ugly :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:34 pm
by Lionheart
I go everywhere! While you can not because you have borders your mind!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:41 pm
by Lionheart
thus speaking in your terms
you should nt feel offended you should nt even feel anything
because there is no bad or good for you!
There is absolutely nothing for you

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:33 pm
by Lionheart
Daft Punk - Tron: Legacy (ost) ... re=related

Love it !