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Questions regarding the value of the DCD 2005 live box sets

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:07 pm
by slow.pulse.boy
Hello,

I am about to sell my 2005 DCD live box sets - Europe 2005 (#99/100) and North America 2005 (#118/300) - but before I do so, I could really use some help from someone who might be able to answer these two questions:

1. What was the original price of each box set? I bought both of these upon release, but the history of my PayPal account doesn't go as far back as 2005. The dcddiscs.com website seems to be down, so no help to be found there either.

2. How much are collectors willing to pay for the sets today? For instance, has any of the two box sets appeared on eBay the last few years? I must admit I haven't been paying attention.

Any help would be much appreciated, and of course, please email me for details and photos if you are interested in these box sets. The CD's have been ripped for backup purposes, but never really been played. It's about time that these (very nice) items are passed on to someone who might appreciate them more than I do!

Kind regards,

Erik

Re: Questions regarding the value of the DCD 2005 live box s

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:37 pm
by lisafan1
slow.pulse.boy wrote:Hello,

I am about to sell my 2005 DCD live box sets - Europe 2005 (#99/100) and North America 2005 (#118/300) - but before I do so, I could really use some help from someone who might be able to answer these two questions:

1. What was the original price of each box set? I bought both of these upon release, but the history of my PayPal account doesn't go as far back as 2005. The dcddiscs.com website seems to be down, so no help to be found there either.

2. How much are collectors willing to pay for the sets today? For instance, has any of the two box sets appeared on eBay the last few years? I must admit I haven't been paying attention.

Any help would be much appreciated, and of course, please email me for details and photos if you are interested in these box sets. The CD's have been ripped for backup purposes, but never really been played. It's about time that these (very nice) items are passed on to someone who might appreciate them more than I do!

Kind regards,

Erik


I've paid 212USD for the eight US live CDs (shipped to Hungary).
I need a few european shows...but I don't have money at this moment :-)

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 6:12 pm
by DCDLibrary
I found the USA boxed set for sale for: € 280.00 online. (Not sure this is what it will sell for, just what is being asked.) I think is originally sold for about $150.00?? Maybe. A few months ago I saw one selling for about $200.00 as well - which seems more in line with a real price.

On the same site there are a few non-boxed set 2005 NA Tour 2xCDs selling for about € 50.00 to € 99.00. All of which seems way too expensive. the few on eBay are selling for $18.00 each. So there you go.

I seem to remember the European on selling for something near twice that amount. Like $300.00 or $350.00. (It had close to double the CDs so that made sense.)

While I HAVE seen the European one selling for lots, I am unsure if there are buyers out there willing to pay too much more since the demand is mostly satiated by the availability of the non-boxed set versions.

Not entirely sure any of the 2005 tour boxed sets have accrued value much. Certainly not doubling in value.

If someone else has a feel for this, please add comments here. I haven't paid attention to the prices of these sets in a long while (even though I am interested in picking up the European boxed set.)

Best regards,

Rainsford

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 7:17 pm
by slow.pulse.boy
Hello again,

For those interested, I actually managed to find out what I originally paid for the sets (including shipping):

* Europe 2005: €347.00 in March 2005
* North America 2005: $212.00 in September 2005

I'm not sure why The Show had me pay in euros for the first set, but I assume it must have something to do with me being a European customer buying a set of European live recordings.

I would still be interested in knowing how much these sets have gone for on eBay, GEMM and similar websites the last few years. I assume they must have been switched owners at one time or another. If anyone knows, please share your thoughts. Thanks!

Erik

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 7:51 pm
by DCDLibrary
Yeah - About $200.00 for the US Tour boxed set. That is right.

The Euro amount you mentioned seems about right as well. I think my conversion to US dollars is off because the US dollar has dropped against the Euro since then. Back in 2005 I think the conversion made it about $400.00. Now? $434.00.

Hmmmm. That actually seems about right.

I suspect the price for the Euro Boxed set is (starting price +25%).

So the Euro Boxed set is worth about €434.00 - or $543.00 USD

Outside of what I can afford right now unless payment plans are allowed. LOL.

This and the wooden box set of "Lonely is an Eyesore" - *sigh* they will be mine one day. :-)

Best regards,

Rainsford

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 2:45 pm
by ianmacd
DCDLibrary wrote:On the same site there are a few non-boxed set 2005 NA Tour 2xCDs selling for about € 50.00 to € 99.00. All of which seems way too expensive. the few on eBay are selling for $18.00 each. So there you go.


Yes, I generally see these go for about €30 - €40 each. Discogs has historical pricing data, which is a nice way to check on actual sales over time.

While I HAVE seen the European one selling for lots, I am unsure if there are buyers out there willing to pay too much more since the demand is mostly satiated by the availability of the non-boxed set versions.


The only thing that could drive up the price is that there are so few of these: just 150. Only the packaging is different from the non-box versions, however, as the numbering is different. The discs themselves are the same.

For anyone considering paying an extortionate amount for one of these so-called boxes, you should be aware that there actually isn't a box at all. There is just a flimsy card band holding all of the plastic cases together. As nice as the individual sets are, The Show expended no effort whatsoever on the box set and clearly just used it as a marketing strategy.

Furthermore, some of the box sets I've seen sell second-hand over the last five years no longer even had the printed card band, so they were no longer complete. Caveat emptor!

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 3:01 pm
by slow.pulse.boy
Hello,

Even though these non-box sets are just the individual shows bundled together with a "flimsy card band", they still give anyone interested the opportunity to buy *all* of the shows from either Europe or North America together with the same limited edition numbering. For those interested in collecting all the shows, this will probably also be cheaper than collecting all the shows individually.

And for the record: Both of my sets do have the flimsy card bands - in like new condition!

Erik

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 3:05 pm
by ianmacd
slow.pulse.boy wrote:Hello,

Even though these non-box sets are just the individual shows bundled together with a "flimsy card band", they still give anyone interested the opportunity to buy *all* of the shows from either Europe or North America together with the same limited edition numbering. For those interested in collecting all the shows, this will probably also be cheaper than collecting all the shows individually.

And for the record: Both of my sets do have the flimsy card bands - in like new condition!


Sorry. I wasn't trying to scupper your chances of a sale.

At the end of the day, it's about the content, not the packaging. The CD sets themselves are gorgeous, as is the music on them, of course.

And the best thing about buying the set nowadays would, indeed, be that you could stop looking for all of the individual sets.

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 3:19 pm
by slow.pulse.boy
That's OK.

I actually agree with you regarding the packaging, and I remember feeling a bit disappointed when I first received the European set. But in the end, the reason why I bought the two sets in the first place was because I wanted all the officially released shows from the tour.

And as you've already pointed out, both the content and the packaging of the individual shows are fantastic.

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 4:47 pm
by DCDLibrary
slow.pulse.boy,

Well, if you are okay with taking payments, then I would be happy to discuss pricing for the boxed set.

I already have all the CDs for Europe and NA individually, and the NA Boxed set, so I am interested in getting the European Boxed Set. *sigh* compulsions are evil at times.

Best regards,

Rainsford

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 6:11 pm
by ianmacd
DCDLibrary wrote:I already have all the CDs for Europe and NA individually, and the NA Boxed set, so I am interested in getting the European Boxed Set.


Now, that's what I call a completist!

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 9:55 pm
by DCDLibrary
Well, I do have my Web site Dead Can Dance Library. And the items on the site are some of the items in my collection. (Though not all of them. I am about 150 items behind in scanning.)

So, yeah, I am sort of a completest. :-)

Best regards,

Rainsford